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Famous family trees: Charlie Chaplin

Welcome to the first in a new series of blogs which explores the family trees of the famous. Experienced family historian, Roy Stockdill, takes us on a journey through time as he investigates the family history of the famous, both living and dead. Roy’s first blog focuses on silent film star Charlie Chaplin.

Did you read those speculative headlines about Charlie Chaplin, perhaps the greatest British icon of the Hollywood cinema, having been born a Frenchman? Yes, I laughed too!

Charlie Chaplin (courtesy of Wikipedia Commons)

Charlie Chaplin (courtesy of Wikipedia Commons)

It seems, however, that the story wasn’t quite as daft as it first sounded. MI5 records released from The National Archives revealed that in the early 1950s the security snoops investigated Chaplin’s background at the request of the American authorities during the anti-communist McCarthyite witch-hunt.

The Americans apparently thought he was a Russian Jew who had been born near Paris in the name of Israel Thornstein. The investigators, however, found no birth certificate for Chaplin, either in London or France, and also found no hard evidence of his supposed communist links.

That didn’t stop the Americans from declaring the ‘Little Tramp’ persona non grata and refusing him a re-entry visa when he sailed back to Britain in 1952.

This story intrigued me so much that I decided to look into Charlie Chaplin’s appearances in the censuses of 1891 and 1901 – and this in itself threw up some fascinating material.

Virtually every reference to Chaplin’s birth says he was born as Charles Spencer Chaplin on 16 April 1889 in East Street, Walworth, South London, but no birth certificate has ever been found. Another story has it that he was born in a gypsy encampment at Smethwick, near Birmingham, his mother Hannah Harriet Pedlingham Hill being descended from a travelling family.

The Wikipedia article on Charlie’s elder half-brother, Sydney, says he was born illegitimate as Sidney John Hill on 16 March 1885, to the then 19 year old Hannah. This is supported by entries in the birth indexes on findmypast.co.uk for the June quarter of 1885 in the St Saviour, Southwark registration district.

In the same quarter of 1885, Hannah married Charles Spencer Chaplin Snr, also in the St Saviour registration district, but it’s thought a different man was Sydney’s father. Charles Chaplin Snr was a music hall artist and an alcoholic and by 1891 he and Hannah were living apart. She too was a music hall artist under the name of Lily Harley.

The 1891 census shows Hannah and her sons living at 94 Barlow Street, Newington, South London, with Hannah described as a ‘Professional Singer Music’, Sydney aged six and Charles Jr aged two. All three were said to have been born at Walworth:

The Chaplins in the 1891 census - click to enlarge
The Chaplins in the 1891 census – click to enlarge

When I looked at the image, however, a somewhat curious fact emerged. Also in the household was a Mary A Hill, a 50-year-old wardrobe dealer who I subsequently discovered was Hannah’s mother and Charlie Chaplin’s maternal grandmother. Two unidentified women were also listed as being in the household, described only in the name column as ‘NK’ and said to be aged 30 and 35.

A note in the profession or occupation column, written in a different hand to the enumerator’s, read: ‘These two females were admitted Saturday night & turned out Monday without information being offered.’ Who were these mysterious women? Stage friends of Hannah? Prostitutes? We shall never know.

Turning to Charles Chaplin Snr, I found another curious entry in 1891 – he appeared to have been enumerated at the same address twice! He was living as a boarder with other music hall artists at 38 Albert Street, Newington:

Charles Chaplin in the 1891 census - click to enlarge
Charles Chaplin in the 1891 census – click to enlarge

The index shows him to have been aged 26, described as a music hall artist born in London. On the image, however, on the line immediately below his entry – and clearly in the same household – was another entry for a ‘Charles do’ (indicating the name was also Chaplin), aged 27, a music hall singer born at Paddington.

Is it conceivable there were two men of the same name and near-identical age, both following the same profession and both boarding in the same household? I never cease to be surprised by anything in genealogy but it would be an extraordinary coincidence! I suppose it’s just remotely possible there were two of them and they could have been cousins.

What seems more likely, however, is some sort of mistake by the enumerator. Perhaps the head of the household filled in one schedule and the enumerator gave a separate schedule to Charles Chaplin Snr, who also filled it in and somehow both got into the enumerator’s book?

I made a still further interesting discovery when I looked for Charles Chaplin Snr in the census of 1871 and found him living with his parents (indexed as Caplin) at 15 Rillington Place, Notting Hill, London:

Charles Chaplin in the 1871 census - click to enlarge
Charles Chaplin in the 1871 census – click to enlarge

Charles’ father, Spencer, was a 35 year old butcher born at Ipswich, Suffolk. His mother Ellen, aged 33, was also born in Suffolk and young Charley – as he was described – had half a dozen siblings. Spencer and Ellen Chaplin were Charlie Chaplin’s paternal grandparents and it was presumably from his grandfather that he got his middle name.

In 1881, Spencer Chaplin, now a widower, was still at 15 Rillington Place with four of the children:

Spencer Chaplin in the 1881 census - click to enlarge
Spencer Chaplin in the 1881 census – click to enlarge

Decades later Rillington Place was to become infamous as the site of the murders of a number of women by the serial killer, John Reginald Halliday Christie. Ten Rillington Place was the subject of books and a film and was only five doors away from where the Chaplin family had lived. The street was torn down in 1971, exactly 100 years after the Chaplins were first recorded as living there.

The Chaplin family saga got more complicated in 1892 when Hannah Chaplin gave birth to a third son as the result of a relationship with another music hall entertainer, Leo Dryden, real name George Dryden Wheeler. The boy was named Wheeler Dryden and taken to live with his father. Later, he met his Chaplin half-brothers and worked for Charlie in Hollywood.

As a result of the affair, Hannah’s marriage to Charles Chaplin Snr finally broke up and her mental state declined until she was admitted to an asylum. Sydney and Charles Jr spent some time in a school for orphans and destitute children.

When he was 12, Chaplin joined a troupe of young male dancers called The Eight Lancashire Lads and got his first break in show business. He is found with them in the 1901 census at 94 Ferndale Road, Lambeth, South London:

Charlie Chaplin in the 1901 census - click to enlarge
Charlie Chaplin in the 1901 census – click to enlarge

Chaplin does not appear in the 1911 census because by then he was in America with the Fred Karno troupe. He was to go on to become the most famous film star in the world and a Hollywood legend. Was he born a Frenchman? I very much doubt it!

Roy Stockdill
Roy Stockdill

Roy Stockdill has been a family historian for almost 40 years. A former national newspaper journalist, he edited the Journal of One-Name Studies (for the Guild of One-Name Studies) for 10 years. He is on the Board of Trustees of the Society of Genealogists and is commissioning editor of the ‘My Ancestors…’ series of books. He writes regularly for Family Tree magazine.

  • Ladkyis

    So good to see that Roy is still making us take notice

  • Celia

    Thank you for this wonderfully interesting analysis of Charlie Chaplin’s early history. I’m looking forward to your next!

  • J Haigh

    Maybe my Gt Grandad was also born in France, as I can find no record of his birth here, though he was on subsequent census forms!

  • Lynne Morton

    Dear Mr Stockdill,

    With great interest, I have just read your Blog, because for some years now I have been trying to find out why Charlie’s mother, Hannah, had Pedlingham in her name.
    Pedlingham is my Mother’s maiden name and I have been researching our family history for about 20 years.
    As a child,I was often told that there was only one Pedlingham family..that all Pedlinghams worldwide were and are related. This story was also featured in a newspaper article written in the 40′s of which I have a copy.
    During my own research I haven’t found any evidence to disprove this theory, so it has long been my belief that The Pedlinghams are, albeit distantly, related to Charlie Chaplin.
    I have an unproven theory as to why Hannah came to be named Hannah Harriet Pedlingham Hill which is basically that her mother Mary was married to a Hodges before marrying Charles Hill and that her maiden name was Terry, and that the Terry name is the link to our family because one Sarah Pedlingham, daughter of Edward Pedlingham married Charles William Terry in 1832, St Mary’s Lambeth. (Charles later died and Sarah remarried a James Ives Dear..) but I am not sure if this is right because I cannot find a definite link.
    Another possibility could be to do with one Harriet Pedlingham, but I have only just started looking into this.
    If ever you happen to go any further back with Charlie’s tree I would be most interested to see the results.

  • Trevor Coppock

    It’s also very interesting to see the “comings and goings” of Charlie’s brother Sydney in the passenger lists.

  • Diana Lea

    Thank you very much for this blog Roy. I always read everything I can of your writings, and have been doing so for a great many years now. I have learned much about family history research from you. Long may you continue to help us all, and I look forward to your future blogs. I only wish we could brainstorm together over a couple of my brick walls!

  • http://www.melmorrisfamilytree.com Mel Morris

    It’s great to see Roy still entertaining and showing us more genealogical curiosities – I’d forgotten just how much I enjoyed his posts on genbrit

  • Veronica Barr

    Look forward to thoroughly reading the article. Very happy to see there were no Gearey’s, Gunnell’s or Morris names showing as CHAPLIN family members.

  • http://findmypast dolphin

    re;1901 census Eight Lancashire Lads. My father is shown on that census as “Billy”(dead now of course). His brother John William and sister Rosie also appear – they were all original founder members of the Eight Lancashire Lads. John William,the oldest son,founded the act with his father William Jackson, who is NOT on that Census. The family were born in Golborne Lancashire. I have been researching my family tree for years and have a wealth of information on the Jacksons their susbequent show business lives. The whereabouts of William Jackson Snr on the night of 1901 Census still remains a mystery to me though. His name was probably mis-transcribed or perhaps he was in a Music Hall that night!

  • Roy Stockdill,

    My thanks to all the posters of the above kind messages. It’s very gratifying to know my first blog has been so well received! I was especially interested in the posts from Lynne Morton and Dolphin.

    Lynne – I suggest you take a look at the following website: http://www.wargs.com/other/chaplin.html

    This backs up your belief that Charles Hill and Mary Terry had both been married before and that Mary had been married to a Henry Lamphee [sic] Hodges. However, the next generation back seems to indicate that the Hills and the Terrys came from Ireland. I have seen the work of William Addams Reitwiesner before and he seems pretty reliable, though I will see if I can check it out myself.

    Dolphin – I too wondered why William Jackson wasn’t in the household in the 1901 census. I’d read at Wikipedia that it was he who founded The Eight Lancashire Lads. It looks rather odd seeing a 17-year-old as the head of the household and an employer, but the image is clear enough. Surely your father must have been Willie Jackson, who was only 2 at the time? There was also another brother, Stephen, aged 8.

  • http://findmypast dolphin

    Hello Roy – re: my post of 9 March and yr welcome comment above abt The Eight Lancashire Lads & Charlie Chaplin. You mention the other brother Stephen – in fact there were also 2 more older brothers – Alfred & Herbert also Artistes, Music Hall. In 1901 they were working in Blackburn and lived with their step-mother Elizabeth,the “Head” of this household, but frustratingly, William Snr is still missing! Elizabeth took on this large family at the age of 42 and had her only child with William Snr at age 42 yrs. He had placed an advert in a paper for a wife, as you do!!) So you are correct in saying that the “Willie” on the 1901 Lambeth census page was my father (he was called Billy throughout his life). Another interesting fact connected to Alfred Jackson is that, at the outbreak of WW1, he was living & working in Germany and married to a German girl. Along with other aliens (and because he was English), the German government promptly locked him away in RUHLEBEN INTERNMENT CAMP for the duration of the war. And that, as they say, is another (little known) story which can be found on the web (search “The Ruhleben Story”). Incidentally William and Elizabeth remained very happily married until her death in 1922, they were a staunch Catholic family.

  • Dagmar

    Dear Roy, It was great to see your total repudiation of the Yankee idiocy, and good to know more of Charlie’s F.H.
    May I tell of my brick wall in the late 1860′s? Cheshire Archives people are very frustrated, after many attempts, at not being able to find the death of a somewhat important person, my Gt Gt Gt GF Samuel Brown, born 1890/1 in Chester. He was a Herald Painter, is on Chester censuses up to 1861, Electoral Rolls up 1867/8, but then disappears. Any thoughts please?
    Best regards,
    Dagmar.

  • Dan Jenkins

    Roy , Charlie Chaplin has been discussed also at Lost Cousins.

    I found same info. you did and have discussed possible Y-DNA testing

    with Peter Calver . I located a son Michael and a grandson of Charlie and have tried to contact them regarding testing. Doesn’t seem to be an interest , at least I have not got a reply .

    I believe there is a descendant of one of the 2 half brothers and if Y-DNA could be compared it may prove surprising .

    Michael Chaplin revealed that he received a letter stating that his father was born in a Gypsey Caravan . Charlie also stated he had Romany roots .

    Dan Jenkins
    Research Member , NEHGS , Boston .

  • Martin

    Several years ago I went on a guided tour of the former workhouse at Chipping Sodbury in Gloucestershire, known as “The Spike”.
    I was told that Charlie Chaplin, as a child, was a former inmate, presumably with his mother (and possibly siblings).
    Does this tie in with the “Sydney and Charles Jr spent some time in a school for orphans and destitute children.” in Roy’s article?

    • Roy Stockdill,

      I concur with your findings that Charlie Chaplin’s 2x-great-grandparents were Shadrach Chaplin and Sophia Hancock whose marriage at Ipswich in 1834 is found on the IGI, batch no. M131791, source the bishop’s transcripts of St Margaret’s, Ipswich, which indicates this was an official extraction from the records and not a private LDS submission (which should always be treated with caution). The Chaplin fortunes must presumably have improved between the censuses of 1841 and 1851 if Shadrach was able to go from being a hawker to a master brewer.
      However, there are two IGI records for the marriage of Shadrach’s parents: another Shadrach and Elizabeth, one of which shows the marriage in 1807 (no parish named) and the bride as Elizabeth Wilding, but this is a private submission with no source; and an entry at Buxhall, Suffolk, in August 1809 which names the groom as Shadrake Chaplin and the bride as Elizabeth WELDEN (batch no. M061932, source the parish registers of Buxhall). In the absence of absolute proof, I always prefer to believe the official extraction rather than a private submission with no source!
      “My Ancestors Were Gypsies” by Sharon Sillers Floate (pub. by the Society of Genealogists in the “My Ancestors…” series of which I am commissioning editor)doesn’t list Chaplin as a specifically gypsy surname, though I notice there appear to have been a substantial number of Chaplins in Ipswich in 1841 and 1851. A hawker was certainly a gypsy occupation but doesn’t necessarily prove anything. I had a 2x-great-grandfather in the Yorkshire Dales who was shown as a hawker on his marriage certificate but he subsequently became a cab proprietor in Bradford (though working with horses is also, of course, a common gypsy occupation).

      • Roy Stockdill,

        Sorry – my reply was meant to be to Pat G (below)!

        • Pat G

          Thanks Roy – I have been suspicious of several IGI entries but not quite realised which ones were most likely to be correct – I shall be better equipped from now on.
          Thanks for this article – it is fascinating and shows how paranoid the Americans were at that time and how easy it is to get it all horribly wrong.

  • Pat G

    I received a request to look into the history of Charlie Chaplin from someone who was convinced that he was born in the gypsy caravan of Esau and Genty Smith. I have spent the last 10 years researching the Smith gypsy families as they are related to my husband.
    It transpires that there is a gypsy connection I think but it is more likely in the older generations of the Chaplin family.
    Spencer Chaplin Senior married an Ellen Elizabeth Smith in 1854 in Ipswich. I found a birth in Woodbridge, Suffolk for an Ellen Elizabeth Smith 3rd quarter of 1838 who may well be the right one – only a copy of the appropriate certificates would prove it.
    However, I believe that Spencer Snr’s father was Shadrack Chaplin b 1811 in Suffolk – a master Brewer in the 1851 census but described as a Hawker (another name for a gypsy) in the 1841 census. Shadrack married a Sophia Hancock on 29.4.1834 in St Margarets, Ipswich.
    Charlie’s 3xGreat Grandparents were, I believe, Shadrack Chaplin b 1786 ( a retired farmer in the 1851 census) and Elizabeth Wilding b 1784 Buxall, Suffolk – both living with Shadrack Jnr’s brother Abednigo in Butter Market, St Lawrence, Ipswich. Abednigo is described as an Ironmonger in that census.
    There may be another gypsy connection through Ellen Elizabeth Smith or indeed Hannah Harriet Pedlingham Hill but I have not yet sent for the marriage certificates to assist me in that task. Maybe the experts would like to follow up this research.

  • Angela

    My grandmother Edith was also living in Walworth in the 1890s, and although 8 years younger than Chaplin, was also sent to the Cuckoo Orphanage in Hanwell, where Chaplin had been a few years earlier. Life at the orphanage was very hard, but the children were being equipped for a hard life, and at the age of 14, Edith was sent back to Walworth and commenced work as a general servant at Spurgeons Tabernacle, at Elephant and Castle.

  • David

    My wife’s maternal grandmother (Ethel) was born just around the corner from East Street (where Charlie Chaplin was born on 16 April 1889). Also Ethel (along with four siblings) spent time in the Cuckoo School at Hanwell, around the time of Charlie and Sydney’s stay.
    When, in 2009, I published a book on my research of my wife’s family history, I felt it added to the overall picture of the times to include a chapter on Charlie Chaplin’s documented experiences (from his autobiography, publish 1964)of the Dickensian conditions at the school/workhouse along with other research gleaned from other sources.
    Charlie Chaplin, probably gave his first public performance in 1894 (aged only 5) when his mother lost her voice during a performance at “The Canteen”, a theatre in Aldershot. After being booed off stage, Hannah (his mother), crying and arguing with her manager, was unaware when the young Charlie took it upon himself to go on stage and sing “Jack Jones”, a well known tune at that time.

  • Sue

    An interesting read regarding Charlie Chaplin. Many thanks. On reading to the end I noted the problems that people have had with the Chester Office. One of our relations disappears too from the records in the 1840′s, his family being in Marbury but no death for him can be found. Any ideas from anyone on further research would be very much welcomed.

  • David

    Roy,

    Thanks for the article, very interesting. Most of the articles that have been published have believed the story, but some of us have also looked into the facts and proved otherwise. We have online census and bmd indexes which were not there in the 1950s. I think the motto should be don’t believe everything that is written in a file, it is just what was available at the time and perhaps this file should come with a health warning on its historical truth.

  • Marian

    So glad to see the stupid American story debunked – what fools McCarthy and cohorts were! I think there is a Romany connection with a lot of Cockney families because I was told that my family (all born in either the East End or Saffron Hill in the 19th century were gypsies.

  • Elizabeth

    Fascinating article – well done. This just proves that with a bit of tenacity and common sense the truth will out. I hope that Roy will publish his findings (with a tree) in the American FH press and put an end to the nonsense.

  • Heather Macdonald

    I started doing some research on Charlie’s line myself a few years back as one of his 4th cousins Doris May Chaplin b. 1897 married Bertie BARNARD, the BARNARD’s being part of my family tree as Bertie’s mother Sarah BONE/BOON was a cousin to my 2xgrt g/mother Mary BONE/BOON.

    Doris’s line goes back to Daniel, a brother of Shadrach (h/o Elizabeth Wilden/Wilding). Shadrach & Daniel were sons of George Chaplin & Susannah Bacon who m. 8 Sep 1771 Grt Finborough

    From info i have found this Chaplin line can be traced back to the early 1720′s in the Great Finborough area in Suffolk with a marriage of a John Chaplin to a Elizabeth Burman 11 Jul 1728 Grt Finborough.

    Apparently there is a supposed female Chaplin from the 1500′s in this area that may link the above Chaplin’s to Princess Diana…unfortunately i haven’t had the resources to trace this properly…. I remember my cousin who lives in Suffolk sent me Di’s line showing the Chaplin connection but i’m not sure what i have done with it.

    Makes for an interesting family tree for me anyway!!!!

  • Michael Meggison

    1. You can also add another interesting fact: Charles Chaplin’s half brother, Wheeler Dryden, was the father of the famous Spencer Dryden of the 1960s rock group the Jefferson Airplane. Spencer used to spend Christmas’ with his famous uncle.

    2. Are you considering genealogical research on the Beatles or Rolling Stones? I have interesting information found on McCartney, Harrison, Starr, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Brian Jones.

  • Michael Meggison

    His genealogy was traced extensively here:

    http://www.wargs.com/other/chaplin.html

    Charles Spencer (“Charlie”) Spencer, actor, film director, b. East Street, Walworth, south London, 16 April 1889 [birth not registered], d. Vevey, Vaud, Switzerland, 25 Dec. 1977
    PARENTS
    2 Charles Chaplin, professional singer, b. 22 Orcas St., Marylebone, 8 March 1863, d. St. Thomas’s Hospital, Lambeth, 7 May 1901
    m. St. John’s Church, Walworth, Surrey, 22 June 1885
    3 Hannah Harriet Pedlingham Hill, b. Walworth, Surrey, 6 Aug. 1865, d. Glendale, Cal., 28 Aug. 1928
    GRANDPARENTS
    4 Spencer Chaplin, butcher 1854, public house manager at his death, bapt. St. Nicholas, Ipswich, Suffolk, 20 Dec. 1835, d. at “The Devonport Arms”, Devonport Mews, Radnor Place, Paddington, Midx, 29 May 1897
    m. St. Margaret’s, Ipswich, Suffolk, 30 Oct. 1854 [entry no. 232]
    5 Ellen Elizabeth Smith, b. 9 Feb. 1838 [entry no. 143], bapt. Trimley St. Martin, Suffolk, 25 Dec. 1838, d. 15 Rillington Place, Kensington, 2 Oct. 1873, ae. 35 [entry no. 344]
    6 Charles Frederick Hill, b. ca. 1836/9, d. … [living 1891]
    m. [second marriage for both] St. Mary, Lambeth, 16 April 1861 [entry no. 254]
    7 Mary Ann Terry, b. Newington, Surrey, in the 1830s, d. ca. 1892 [she had m. (1) St. John's Church, Waterloo, Lambeth District, 15 May 1854 (entry no. 370), Henry Lamphee Hodges, signwriter and grainer, b. 1824, d. Newington Dec qtr 1858, by whom she had a son Henry b. 1856]
    GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
    8 Shadrach Chaplin, of Carr Street, Ipswich, b. 15 Jan. 1814, bapt. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 8 April 1814, d. Ipswich, Suffolk, 2 April 1893 ae. 79 [he m. (2) 1872 Susannah Eyres, d. Ipswich, Suffolk, 3 April 1893]
    m. St. Margaret, Ipswich, 29 April 1834
    9 Sophia Hancock, b. Tunstall, Staffs, … 1807, d. 1 Hatton Street, sub-district of St. John, Marylebone, 24 July 1868 [entry no. 464]
    10 William Smith, butcher at Trimley St Martin 1841, innkeeper at Ipswich 1851, farmer at Bucklesham 1861, b. Felixstowe, Suffolk, ca. 1800 or 1807/8 [not baptised there], d. … [living Feb 1866 (when his wife died)]
    m. Trimley St. Martin 20 July 1828 (by banns)
    11 Emma Bristo, b. 10 Jan. 1809, bapt. (as Emily) Kirton, Suffolk, 26 March 1809, d. Bucklesham, Suffolk, 20 Feb. 1866, bur. Kirton, Suffolk, 25 Feb. 1866 [described as of Bucklesham]
    12 John Hill, b. … [Cork?,] Ireland, d. …
    m.
    13 … , b. … , d. …
    14 John Terry, b. … [Ireland?], d. … [by 1861]
    m.
    15 … , b. … , d. …
    GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
    16 Shadrach Chaplin, bootmaker, bapt. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 21 May 1786, bur. Ipswich St Matthew 30 Jan. 1858
    m. Buxhall, Suffolk, 29 Aug. 1809
    17 Elizabeth Wilden, b. … [1783/4 at Buxhall (1851 census) but not baptised there; or at Ipswich (1861 census)], d. … [living 1861]
    20 (perhaps) John Smith of St Mary Walton
    m.
    21 (perhaps) Ann Spall
    22 William Bristo, b. 22 July 1773, bapt. Kirton, Suffolk, 25 July 1773, bur. Kirton, Suffolk, 13 May 1811
    m. Kirton, Suffolk, 10 Nov. 1794 [witnessed by James Bristo and Sarah Bristo]
    23 Rebecca Page, b. … , bapt. Walton St Mary, Suffolk, 2 April 1773 and 11 Oct. 1778, d. … , bur. [as Rebecca Hacon] Kirton, Suffolk, 21 Oct. 1853 ae. 80, having remarried (date and place not known) Henry Hacon (bur. Kirton 4 Oct. 1847 ae. 71)
    GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
    32 George Chaplin, bapt. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 19 May 1741, d. … [he m. (1) 1766 Anne Ashman, d. 1768]
    m. (2) Great Finborough, Suffolk, 8 Sept. 1771
    33 Susanna Bacon, b. … [1746/7], d. … , bur. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 10 April 1827 ae. 80
    34 (probably) James Wilden
    m.
    35 (probably) Hannah Belman
    44 Jeremiah Bristo, b. ca. 1745 [not bapt. at Martlesham where his parents were married], bur. Kirton, Suffolk, 9 Sept. 1794
    m. Ipswich St. Mary 26 Nov. 1769
    45 Margaret Cooper, b. … , bapt. Dallinghoo, Suffolk, 3 June 1744, d. 19 March 1780, bur. Kirton, Suffolk, 20 March 1780
    46 Benjamin Page, b. … [1746/7] (not bapt. at Walton), d. … , bur. Kirton, Suffolk, 19 March 1820 ae. 73
    m.
    47 Hannah Legate, b. … [1745/6] (not bapt. at Walton), d. … , bur. Walton, Suffolk, 16 May 1811 ae. 65
    GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
    64 John Chaplin, b. … , d. … , bur. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 12 Oct. 1787
    m. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 11 July 1728
    65 Elizabeth Burman, b. … , bapt. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 27 Dec. 1698, d. … , bur. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 2 Sept. 1786
    88 Thomas Bristo, of Ipswich, b. … , d. …
    m. Martlesham, Suffolk, 27 Oct. 1737
    89 Elizabeth Tunmer(e), b. … , d. …
    90 John Cooper, of Dallinghoo, Suffolk (but not married there), b. … , d. …
    m.
    91 Hannah … , b. … , d. …
    GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
    130 John Burman, b. … , d. …
    m. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 2 Oct. 1694
    131 Mary Byles, b. … , d. … , bur. Great Finborough, Suffolk, 9 Oct. 1740
    178 (perhaps) Thomas Tunmer(e), bur. Martlesham, Suffolk, 24 Jan. 1751/2
    m.
    179 (perhaps) Susanna … , bur. Martlesham, Suffolk, 5 Feb. 1749/50

  • valerie gough

    my descendants toured with charlie chaplin on the fred carno tours
    george and emily seaman related to julia eliza seaman well known actress at the old vic and other theatres born 1838-1909 would like to know more about the seaman family

  • Sarah-Jane Ruthwell

    Wow that is very interesting, can’t wait for the next one.

  • Ann Doyle

    Very interesting to read the comments and research on Charlie Chaplin. His great-grandmother, Emma BRISTO, and my great-great-grandmother were sisters – daughters of William BRISTO and Rebecca PAGE of Kirton, Suffolk.

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